N2QDK-9

Background

My RAV4 contains APRS (Automatic Packet Reporting System) hardware. APRS uses Amateur Radio to transmit real-time position reports, weather reports, and messages between users via RF (radio frequency). In my case, it transmits a beacon with my vehicle's location, obtained via GPS, every 15 minutes; more frequently if the vehicle is in motion. Think of it as a poor-man's lojack.

However, with the addition of the Garmin Nuvi 350 as GPS and display, I can see other APRS stations as a waypoint plot on Nuvi's on-screen map, as well as send and receive messages to other people via the radio.

All data on the local RF is ingested into the APRS Internet System (APRS-IS) and distributed globally for instant access via the Internet.

To the right is the view of the Argent Data Systems OT2m TNC and the radio, a Yaesu FT-2800m, all hidden in a rear cargo compartment of my RAV4. All cables are run inside body pannels, under floorboards, or otherwise hidden.

Bob WB4APR is now pushing the two-way messaging aspect of APRS, with web/Internet connectivty. An APRS tracker/mapping program for the iPhone is in developement and is expected to be released before the holidays. Fun things are ahead for the world of APRS, as consumer electronics are brought under our umbrella and everyday usability increases.

Below is the last known position of my vehicle according to APRS-IS:

 

 

Hardware

  • Radio: Yaesu FT-2800m, usually transmitting at 25 watts, but I'll kick it up to 65 watts when traveling in the Adirondacks or anywhere else where coverage is spotty
  • Antenna: Generic through-the-glass quarter wave vertical
  • TNC/Tracker: Argent Data Systems Tracker2 OT2m, configured to digipeat TEMPn for temporary and special event use
  • Interface Cable: Garmin FMI (Fleet Management Interface) Serial-to-mini USB cable
  • GPS & Display: Garmin Nüvi 350

Setup & Configuration

It has taken me about two years of fiddling with different equipment to get to this point. Nice and simple, with the absolute minimum wires. For TNC's, I have tried a TinyTrak3Plus (non-upgradable firmware and terrible RF isolation), OpenTracker+ (a fantastic tracker, but I wanted something that could operate as a digipeater if needed). In January 2008, when Scott N1VG announced that his OT2m TNC can talk to the Garmin Nuvi 350 to recieve GPS data, and plot local RF objects as waypoint on the Nuvi's map display, I knew I needed to get my hand on at least one OT2m ASAP.

Above is a closeup of the cargo compartment, which is usually covered by a removable pannel. The large black thing that looks like a huge heatsink is the Yaesu FT-2800m radio. The smaller black box conspicously labeled is the Argent Data Systesm Tracker2 OT2m TNC. The top silver connector out of the back of the OT2m is a DB9 plug that goes to the Garmin Nuvi 350 GPS that sits on the dash. The bottom DB9 is for power and radio transmit and receive audio (the white and black cables, respectively).

What you can't see is the 10 gauge wire that's connected to the positive battery wiring harness, runs through the firewall, and runs to the back cargo area. The 2003 RAV4 does offer a switched cigarette lighter jack just below the cargo compartment. When the ignition is off, power is cut. This isn't useful for me as I wanted an always-on solution, with the obvious caveat that if I don't drive my vehicle within three or four days, I may come back to a dead battery. Eventually I'll put a toggle switch in to allow easy switching between always-on power and ignition switched power.

Also not shown: The power cords terminate to a 15 amp PowerPole interconnect, where a short jumper containing two 15 amp inline fuses and interconnect to the blade harness used by the FT-2800m. It is important to remember safety, and the first rule is to fuse-protect everything.

The OT2m takes two DB9 connectors, one for audio in/out and power, the other for the GPS/data. Connecting the OT2m to the radio required two wires, one 1/8" male mono (black) wire that goes into the speaker jack of the radio, the other (white) wire goes to the 6 pin RJ11 modular mic jack. The Yaesu FT-2800 comes with a backlit handheld microphone, which is enough juice to power the OT2m! Here is the pin configuration.

My OT2m reports it as 7.7 volts, which appears to be very well regulated by the FT-2800m radio. It doesn't matter if the vehicle power into the radio is 12 or 14 volts, it is consistatly 7.7 volts out of the mic jack. I'm not sure how much current the FT-2800m radio can provide, but the OT2m is rated to draw a max of 30mA during transmit (which lasts less than two seconds), otherwise 12mA when idle, which hasn't been a problem. The OT2m is happy with anywhere from 6.5 - 28 volts.

The other DB9 connector goes to the Garmin FMI (fleet management interface) cable, which plugs into the Nuvi 350 as a mini-USB connector. The OT2m is in the rear of the vehicle and the Nuvi sits on my dash; A 15 foot cable run was needed. Due to the availability of a few hundred feet of Cat5e ethernet cable sitting on a shelf, I just used that. It's worked well for six months without any issues.

It is a completely out-of-sight install when the cover of the storage area is in place.

To have the OT2m talk to the Nuvi 350, the Nuvi must receive external power (not run off of its internal battery). This means plugging the mini USB power connector into the Nuvi mount, and putting the Nuvi into the mount. Then plug the FMI cable into the side mini USB plug. When plugging the FMI cable into the Nuvi 350 for the first time, the FMI mode is enabled, which changes a few of the menus. It takes a little getting used to, but isn't bad at all, considering the additional functionality you'll gain, such as sending and receiving text messages.

I still need to add the configuration setting I have running on the Tracker2 OT2m.

Using the Garmin Nüvi 350 for APRS

The map display is the most basic element for any on-dash GPS navigation system. The Garmin Nuvi 350's integration with APRS includes the placement of local objects heard via RF plotted on the map as a waypoint.

The screenshot to the left shows a number of APRS objects plotted as waypoints in Central New York.

Not only can objects be plotted on the map, they can be listed in table form with distance and a direction indicator, based on your current direction of travel. This is accessed by going into the "Favorites" menu. To the Nuvi, APRS objects are stored as a Favorite.

If you click on an object/waypoint, it will show you the CALLSIGN-SSID and the APRS comment for the station. This is especially useful for voice repeater objects and meeting notices, see below. If you click on "Show Map," the Nuvi will display the object/waypoint and the surroundings.

If you click on the "Go" icon, the Nuvi will route you to that location! This is really useful for hamfests and club meetings.

The bottom two objects have a blue background because the screenshot was captured while the Nuvi was in nighttime mode.

 

Two-way Text Messaging

Where the Nuvi/OT2m combo really shines is in its text messaging abilities. When an APRS message is sent to you, an exclamation point icon will show up on the screen, and it will make a "bong" alert sound.

Clicking on the exclamation point will take you to the incoming messages screen. Clickon the message to show the entire message. The Nuvi keeps track of read and unread messages by way of a different envelope icon.

One downside of Nuvi/OT2m messaging is that if the Nuvi is powered down, it will not receive any messages, even if the OT2m remains powered on. When my vehicle is off, the radio and OT2m remain powered (and will act as a TEMPn digipeater if needed).

To the right is an example message sent via Steve's FindU.com website, now that message sending capabilities have been added. I sent this message using the Safari browser on my iPhone.

From the time I clicked the send button on the website to send the message to when I recieved a notification on the Nuvi was under 5 seconds! This is absolutely amazing, and certainly much faster than I was expecting.

Sending a message from the Nuvi is just as simple. The format is -CALLSIGN MESSAGE.

Expanded APRS messaging interoperability between the RF and Internet (including cellphone SMS texting) will only further usability. I would rather receive short text messages, weather or other alerts for my local area via APRS RF and have them displayed on my dash on the Nuvi than via my iPhone while driving.

Comments

Nice Way to Mount the NUVI 350

I've been looking all over for a nice, clean mounting system for the NUVI 350 and the control head for my 857-D.

I settled on the RAM "Ram-A-Cup" cup-holder mount.

I bought two of the mounts. To one of them, I attached the RAM holder which was made specifically for the Nuvi 350. To the other, I attached a RAM backing plate.

Perfect solution.

Vendor - www.themountdepot.com

Part numbers -

RAM-HOL-GA21U Holder for Selected nuvi 300 Series GPS units - $8.30

RAM-A-CAN with Flexible Arm Mount (for Apple, Cell and GPS) - $23.50

APRS Internet to RF

Gating the internet feed to RF is not recommended due to the fact it will overload the RF network in most areas. The digipeaters are not ot capable of hiandling that amount of traffic.
Dave N0XBN

Gating the *entire* Internet

Gating the *entire* Internet feed to RF is not recommended.  Gating messages from the APRS-IS to RF to local users is highly recommended.  The amount of traffic in my area is not anywhere near approaching the point of saturation.

Make sure you buy the Byonics

Make sure you buy the Byonics M12C cable to use to connect your radio (mine is a kenwood TM-V71a) to your TRACKER2 tnc. I mistakenly bought the wrong cable from byonics. When plugged in with the Garmin cable from Argent data (between the GPS and the Tracker2) it all just works!! You still have to activate Garmin mode in the Tracker2 and put in your call sign. Still amazed it all just works.

Great Writeup

Thanks for your well written article on using the OT2m with the Nuvi 350 for APRS. I decided to get APRS going in my truck. After some initial reading, I bought a PicoPacket, but before I received it I found your page - go figure. Anyway, I ordered a 350 (it was still available from RS refurb for $109) and a OT2. Wow! I hooked it up and it just worked. Haven't tried messaging yet, but everything else is working as advertised.

I'm going to clean up the install, add a dedicated radio for APRS with a sharing arrangement for the VHF antenna with my IC-706. I'm thinking about a switch that allows APRS to work transmit only so I can use the VHF antenna for voice with the 706. The TNC PTT will operate an antenna relay. For times when I'm not using VHF voice with the 706, the APRS radio will have full use of the VHF antenna. I will also have an OFF position to disable APRS. Thanks again for a great setup!

Question on Messaging

Thank you for some great information. Following your explanation, I successfully set-up a nearly identical system. (I used an FT-2900 instead of the FT-2800) and installed it in a Tac-Comm case to make it portable.
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Anyway... My question is pretty simple. How does one send messages on Find-U and secondly, how do you send a message out from your system?

Thanks in advance

Configuration Settings

I was wondering if you might make your configuration file available to those of us who blatantly duplicated your system.

73's..

KE7RFL

OT2m Version 2.0

New version coming out. "The most obvious difference between version 2.0 and version 1.0 is that the demodulator is a CML Micro MX614 instead of the NJM2211 from NJR. Getting consistently good performance from the 2211 has been a pain."
Sounds like it'll be 6-8 weeks though. "I think six to eight weeks is more realistic."
http://n1vg.blogspot.com/2009/09/ot2m-version-20.html

N2QDK-1 question

Dear Mike,

I have been playing around with APRS for quite a while and recently have been using APRSISCE on my cell phone. APRSISCE is not only a full blown tracker for your Windows CE 6 phone but a much easier APRS messaging system than anything else around right now.

I've noticed that while beaconing from my car here in Albany, I can send a message out from my Kenwood D710 to the internet and have my phone receive it, but I can not originate a message from my phone and have it received by the radio. In speaking to people like Lynn KJ4EJR and Bob Bruninga WB4APR , the problem may be that while many APRS digis send info out to the web, very few allow
2-way back from the web. Lynn mentioned that it should be fairly easy to turn on 2-way information exchange and was wondering if you could consider it for N2QDK-1.

Here is a copy of one of my packets and as I understand it, N2QDK-1 would be the last digi my packet went through:
K2QY-10>TR3W8T,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,N2QDK-1:`eL`l j/]"48}MONITORING 144.39 PL100 and 146.52=

Thanks for your consideration and 73
John
K2QY

Hey John, I'm on vacation now

Hey John, I'm on vacation now for the next week, but I've noticed that APRSALY (N2QDK-1) doesn't seem to go from Internet > RF, but honestly haven't followed up on it yet.  I'm sure it's a simple config setting in javAPRS.

Bought same radio and TNC

Hello,

Based on your outstanding setup, and your recommendations I just bought the same Radio you have, and the same TNC device. I have a Garmin Nuvi 760, so I hope this will work to allow APRS messaging, like your 350. If not I will sell the 760 and switch over to the 350 (when I find one).

Garmin Nuvi 760

I have a Byonics TT4 and the GPS2 for APRS, and I have a Nuvi 760 in my truck for navigation. Since I already have the 760 can I use that instead of the Nuvi 350? Has anyone used the 760 for APRS? Garmin and Argent sell the FMI cable for the 760 but I don't know if 760 has all the APRS options like the 350 does.

73

Craig - KI6WLP

I had similar questions in my

I had similar questions in my mind after reading Mike's article, as I have 3 different Garmin GPS units. According to the ArgentWiki article the 7x0 series is not listed as a model which will work with the Argent trackers. http://wiki.argentdata.com/index.php/Garmin_FMI

I ended up breaking down and buying my 4th GPS unit - a Nuvi 350. I'm looking forward to getting everything hooked up and running. Thanks Mike for posting your experience for the rest of us to share.

Radio Shack has the Nuvi 350 for $109

Radio Shack has a sale going on for a refurbished Nuvi 350 for $109 which is a steal compared to everyone else. Sale until 8/31/09.

OT2/Nuvi in the sky

My OT2/Nuvi350 AWACS is now up and running in my experimental aircraft. Tracking is solid, and I can find my APRS airplane buddies in the sky. Sending an email or text from 10K ft while on a long trip is pretty cool, too. Thanks Mike

Garmin 350

Just a quick note that the Garmin 350 has been discontinued, although there are refurbs out there. Be aware that the 350 has some "known issues" that are common, mostly difficulty or inability to acquire satellites. The refurbs are also short in warranty, so for $100 it is a bit of a gamble that you'll have something that works a year later. Luckily Garmin replaced mine for free (minus my shipping cost) after my refurb arrived non-functioning.

re: garmin 350

In the three years I have used the Garmin 350 almost daily (only one year as an APRS frontend), I have never seen it unable to acquire sats.  It sometimes can take upwards of three to four minutes to acquire a lock, but that is rare (less than once a month, with daily use).

Based on my success with the Nuvi 350, and the featureset when paired with the Argent OT2m Tracker2, I wouldn't even consider another Garmin GPS.  The 350 remains the must-have frontend.

Great info! Thanks for getting me started.

Hey Mike,

Great page! Your setup was an inspiration to me and I'm now running a similar setup in my Honda Fit. Thanks for taking the time to document it. For those interested - here's what my setup is like: http://planetkris.com/archives/wp-208

Tactical APRS tracking with messaging capabilities for 1/4th the cost!
Thanks again!
- Kris KI6IUC

Fantastic Kris, glad some of

Fantastic Kris, glad some of the lessons I learned along the way are of some use!  the cat5e-as-serial-cable trick is especially useful  :)

Routing via "Go" question

Regarding: If you click on the "Go" icon, the Nuvi will route you to that location!
If you click on "Go" for a CALLSIGN-SSID that is moving, will your route automatically be updated to keep up with the CALLSIGN-SSID changing location?

Re: Routing via "Go" question

This is a known quirk with the Nuvi 350/Tracker2.  If the CALLSIGN-SSID is moving and you route to it, the destination will not update automatically.  It creates another object postpended with a -01 (I think) so it has a unique name.

However, hamfests and club meeting objects that are stationary, it's not an issue.

Garmin Nuvi 360 / 660?

I was originally looking at a Byonics TinyTrack4, with the TT4D mod to do this same thing with an old Magellan Meridian that I have lying around. However, I really wanted to use a more modern gps, so that I could still do routing. The TT4 will eventually get text messaging functionality as well, but again...if I can get it through the gps, that's what I want to do.

Do you know if this method will work with the Nuvi 360 or 660? I'd really like to use the model with Bluetooth if possible. They should be the same gps sans Bluetooth in the 350 / 650 models.

Thanks, and likewise to another comment, could you send or post your OT2m configuration?

WX station when parked

Mike,

How are you doing your WX station reports when parked?

I managed to figure out how to get the T2 to sensibly switch between configurations (i.e. "I'm a car in motion" and "I'm a parked car who thinks it's a weather station"), but I can't get it to behave like a bonafide weather station when it comes to aprs.fi and findu.com.

I see above you were considering hooking up external WX sensors; is that what you ended up doing?

Any pointers? Very excited to finally have this online.

Mike
KC2JCJ

APRS Nuvi 350 and Kenwood TM-710e

Hello friends.
I have one quastions about connect Nuvi 350 to a station Kenwood TM-d710e if it is posible with this cable mini B data cable ofr Garmin.
i saw on internet that is posible with other GPS system AWMAP G5E Map.

Thanks for your ansvers.

Best regards from Slovenia-Europe-

Different tracker units

Hello

Thanks for good advice for Garmin FMI and APRS combination. I've searched about 2-4 years navigator that I could use for APRS. I read about same kind of system from somewhere else, but there the power was took to read wire over the com-port voltage converter.



Now I'm wondering is it possible to use OpenTracker+ (see link 1) instead of OT2m?



Has anyone tried Garmin 010-10865-00 18-pin Data Cable (see link 2) with APRS Trackers?



Second thing is does anybody know how I could connect Garmin 350 to APRS server over GPRS/EDGE/3G?



Link 1 https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=72


Link 2 https://www.argentdata.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=91

N2QDK-9 OT2m Configuration

Mike,
Would you be so kind as to send me a copy of your OT2m configuration file. I just received my OT2m and built my cables to interface with a Garmin 2720 and a Yaesu 7800. Still need to set my audio levels. The otwincfg.exe is not quite intuitive when it come to setting up a Garmin. Rather than re-inventing the wheel, I thought that I would ask for your help.
Tom Leeper 8)
KE7CLI

Block diagram

Found your article on your vehicle setup very interesting. Enough to put me off the AVMAP-G5 for my D700---------which at present exchange is over $800.00Cdn plus tax! (What I want is a visual representation of what the D700 is printing out)Using your system will mean dedicating the A side of the D700 to my other hobby of following aircraft!

Just one thing,can you add a labelled block diagram to your Nuvi 350\Tracker2 website?

73
VE1NPS de Nigel
QTH--near Halifax,NS,Canada

Block diagram

I'll see what I can do about adding a schematic at some point... the wiring is actually very simple.

Nuvi 350 is preferred

All of the other Garmin FMI GPSes seem to have the breadcrumbing problem. Not all firmwares work well on the Nuvi 350, but I am not aware of any known working firmwares for the other GPS models.

Garmin may one day address this, but don't hold your breath since it doesn't cause any harm in the intended fleet management role.

Operating while parked?

Hey Mike,

This is really cool! I am wondering what could be done to still be able to send the vehicle's position while the Nuvi is put out-of-sight (for example when parked in a public place). Would you switch to a low power backup GPS module or would you keep the Nuvi powered on? Do you know how much amps the Nuvi draws from the battery?

Thanks! Bernard

Operating while parked?

When on my dash, the Nuvi sits in the Garmin friction mount. When parked, I just remove the Nuvi from the mount, while still attached to the right-angle Garmin FMI cable, and into the center console of the RAV4. Unless you're really looking, you can't see the cable hanging out of the center console, and I'd rather not add the stress on the jack of plugging and unplugging the data connector at least once a day. I leave the friction mount on the dash; As long as the Nuvi is out of sight, that's enough for me.

At full brightness and a fully charged battery, my Nuvi 350 consumes exactly 300mA. This is around the same amount of juice used by my Yaesu FT-2800m and OT2m while in receive. For reference, my Byonics GPS1 serial GPS puck draws around 60mA. I don't have any experience trying to run the serial Y cable in the Garmin setup, much less running both the Garmin and a serial GPS. I don't know how the OT2m handles it. You may want to hit up the very active and helpful community of Tracker2 users Tracker2 Yahoogroup for info.

Anyways, with the FT-2800m and OT2m pulling about 300mA consistantly, I don't start to worry about my car battery until at least three or four days without driving. I figure .5A/hour * 24 hours = 12 Amps/Day. If I'll be letting my car sit for longer than that, I'll pull the plug on the radio. At some point, I'll likely add a solar pannel to try and maintain the battery, if I can figure out a clever way to securely mount it.

This week, I'll be adding a remote temperature sensor outside the RAV to measure air temperature, ideally without influance from solar radiation. The bonus is the ability to send --wxinfo via the Nuvi to get the outside air temp.

Better to have two batteries in your car

Have been doing some reading and it is better to have two car batteries in your car, with a battery isolator (diode system) that prevents the batteries from feeding current to each other. Still use the existing alternator to charge both batteries. Effectively you could have the batteries last twice as long. *** Looking at solar chargers you are going to get maybe 200mA in full sunlight, which is not enough to power 600mA of extra electronics in idle. When the sunlight goes out, you have no battery charging happening.

Duplicate waypoints?

Hey Mike,

That's a really cool project. Thanks for showing pictures of it!

I was wondering if positions of received stations are duplicated
on the screen when they are moving. I tried to simulate waypoint
sentences upload with gpsbabel to a Garmin C330 and the GPS keeps
renaming the objects by appending a number. The screen gets filled
pretty quickly with duplicates. Unfortunately, there is no way to
tell the GPS to override or delete a waypoint before resending it so it keeps
duplicating them.

Can you tell me if that's the case with the Nuvi model?

Thanks and 73!

Bernard KI6TSF
Mountain View, CA

Duplicate waypoints?

Hey Bernard,

Great, glad folks are reading about my mobile APRS
setup! It's a really exciting convergence of off-the-shelf consumer
electronics and amateur radio gear that I hope continues, thanks to the
clever hacking of hams much smarter than me. :) How did you find my
webpage?

The cool thing that's specific to the Nuvi 350, is that it DOES NOT
duplicate waypoints, unlike the rest of the Garmin line of GPS models.
When a subsequent coordinates are received for a specific waypoint/APRS
object, it moves the icon for that object to the correct place on the
screen, rather than creating a new waypoint/object (this is known as
breadcrumbing). As you know, breadcrumbing can really junk up the GPS
screen in a hurry.

Actually, that's not completely true. If you have chosen an APRS
object as a navigation destination and it moves, the Nuvi 350 will
post-pend the new object with a number. But this only happens when you
try to navigate to the waypoint/APRS object, and only if it moves.
Most APRS objects that you want to navigate to, such as a hamfest or
club meeting aren't moving, thus breadcrumbing isn't really a problem.

Duplicate waypoints?

Hey, that's really really cool! I almost gave up with the idea of using a Garmin GPS. I am glad the problem is solved in the Nuvi 350! Thanks for finding out and sharing the information! The messaging capabilities are like an amazing extra bonus! Bernard

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